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WORDS
2: AMONGST OTHER THINGS...

September
2002, p. 214-219, 246. In english.
NAOMI
WATTS
We still aren´t sure what Mulholland Drive was about,
but we know one thing - this actress is taking the film
world by storm
By
Brad Goldfarb // Photography by Carter Smith
It´s
fitting that after 12 years of trying to break through
in the movies, Naomi Watts did so in a film in which she
took on flip sides of that Hollywood archetype "the
aspiring actress," nailing both its giddy optimism
as well as its potential for dashed dreams. The film,
of course, was Mulholland Drive, a project that put Watts
on the fast track to big-screen dominance. In the coming
months, she has no less than four films slated for U.S.
release, including The Ring, a thriller due out in theaters
next month; Plots With a View, opposite Brenda Blethyn
and Christopher Walken; The Kelly Gang, the biopic based
on the life of the legendary Australian outlaw Ned Kelly,
starring Heath Ledger; and Merchant-Ivory´s Le Divorce,
co-starring Kate Hudson.
When
I first met Watts, she was taking a break from her photo
session for this issue and sharing a quick chat with Sean
Penn, who happended to be staying at the hotel where we
were shooting. It was the kind of Hollywood power moment
seldom witnessed in New York Ciry, and one which perfectly
summed up where Watts is at this point in her career -
in demand. In fact, the trades announced a few days later
that she had signed on to star yet in another high profile
project - Alejandro González Inárritu´s
21 Grams, a films which also stars Penn and Benicio Del
Toro, and which is scheduled to start filming at the end
of the year.
Later
that morning, watching Watts work it for the camera, I
was struck by her uncanny ability to transform herself
with little more than the turn of her head or a twist
of the body. She´s one of those rare actresses who
can take on a role so completely that she becomes virtually
unrecognizable from one moment to the next. It´s
a skill that gave particular resonance to Watt´s
performance in Mulholland Drive, and which will be no
doubt be in abundant, delightful display in the months
ahead.
Naomi
Watts: Hi, Brad!
Brad
Goldfarb: Hi, Naomi. Hold on one sec - I want to patch
us in to another phone line, just to make sure we get
our recording here.
NW:
Oh, my God. So high tech.
BG:
Not really, but if it sounds that way then it means we´re
doing our jobs... So I understand you´re in the
midst of an incredibly busy week, not to mention a busy
year. In the 12 months we spoke to you last, you´ve
worked nonstop. Today I hear you were putting the finishing
touches on The Ring before you head off for a well-deserved
break.
NW:
Yeah. Today was like 18 hours of looping. It´s been
a long one.
BG:
To put all this in context, when we talked a year
ago, Mulholland Drive was about to come out and the early
buzz on the film was extremely postive, but you didn´t
have any specific projects lined up, and you were still
having to fight for roles. Now you´ve got a number
of movies in the can, others lined up, and God only knows
how many people scratching on your door.
NW:
Tonight - when I get on the plane and start my vacation
- will, I think, be the first opportunity I´ve had
to process this whole year. I know it will be the first
time I´ve sat still for more than three days straight.
I think at that point what´s happening might all
start to think in.
BG:
How has your life changed physically? Still driving
in the same car? Still living in the same apartment?
NW:
I´ve upgraded the car, but I´m still living
in the same tiny apartment. If I spent more time in L.A.
I would probably have moved six months ago.
BG:
And, I imagine, you´re not having to fight for good
roles anymore.
NW:
No, I haven´t done an audition since The Ring.
BG:
A nice change.
NW:
You have no idea. [laughs] Not having to do an audition
is the meaning of success for me. If I just know that
I don´t have to audition again, or too much, that
will be enough.
BG:
Why?
NW:
Auditions are just so humiliating and degrading. You get
a five-minute time slot for a part you´ve spent
six hours or more studying for or thinking about, and
you get into these rooms full of people who barely make
eye contact. They´re bored and frustrated that they
can´t find the right person, energy that is instantly
crushing and which makes it hard to shine. Going through
that process over and over, you become so wounded and
guarded that it´s impossible to give you best stuff
away. That´s why I will never forget what David
Lynch did for me. When he cast me in Mulholland Drive
I was literally at the lowest place, and yet he managed
to pull away all those masks.
BG:
The story goes that Lynch cast you from a head shot and
never had you read for the part.
NW:
David works with a casting director who knows all the
actors and chooses the head shots. By process of elimination,
David selects maybe three or four that he responds to,
without looking at their resumes. It was probably the
easiest job I´ve ever had getting. He just talked
to me for about a half hour one day, and then another
40 minutes the next, and never about work.
BG:
At this point, how long had you been in L.A. waiting
for your "big break"?
NW:
It had been about five years of getting close to things.
I had a long list of coming in second place of big movies,
of almost getting that big job that might have changed
things.
BG:
Were you aware that your own experience as a struggling
actor would be so relevant in the film?
NW:
Certainly in the audition scene. When I read the script
that was the scene where I went "OK, this is the
part." I remember the day we shot it - it was magic
in the room. All the actors had been on auditions, of
course, and we all had a comment on that situation and
it just bubbled up. I remember looking up over at David´s
face and he was just grinning from ear to ear. We were
all able to bring pretty good stuff to it, I think.
BG:
I`ll say. Throughout the film, and in that scene in particular,
one can sense not just your understanding of the material,but
the fun you´re having wrapping yourself around a
good part. It´s an immensely satisfying thing to
witness.
NW:
Thank you. That part was the role of a lifetime. It
was something I really got to sink my teeth into. I wouldn´t
have been surprised if there wasn´t another one
like that for the rest of my life, except that the next
film I´m making is the second role of a lifetime
- you wouldn´t think you could get that lucky again.
BG:
You´re referring, of course, to 21 Grams. What can
you tell us about the film?
NW:
Not too much, because it´s just become official
and I´m not sure what I`m allowed to say.
BG:
Obviously, it´s something you´re very excited
about.
NW:
Oh yeah. I can´t believe it. Alejandro´s last
film, Amores Perros, blew me away. It just stayed with
me for days. So when Alejandro called and wanted to see
me I was very excited. I was coming to the end of The
Ring at this point - I was beyond exhausted, I was pressing
on to this other movie, and we were three weeks behind
schedule, which was eating up all of my rest time, so
I was really stressed. We arranged for him to come to
my trailer - I remember it was a day I was shooting a
scene in which my character has been down a well for about
a week, so I was in a wet suit, I had wet hair, wounds
on my face, no make up. I was looking like death warmed
over. Alejandro sits me down and says, [in a Mexican accent]
"Naomi, I want you to do my film." I was like,
"OK. I´d love to work with you." But I
just thought it was one of those Hollywood lines. Then
that day or the next, I got a call from my agent saying,
"You got the offer." I was like "Are you
kidding?" I was just screaming, screaming, screaming.
BG:
Had you read a script at this point?
NW:
No. He promised me to send me the script, which finally
came like six weeks later and I could not believe how
great it was.
BG:
What´s the meaning of the film´s title?
NW:
Essentially, 21 grams is the difference in weight between
a person who´s living and one who´s dead.
I guess you could say it´s the weight of one´s
soul.
BG:
Tantalizing...
NW.
Interesting, huh? That was basically all Alejandro said.
That and "she goes through a lot." He wasn´t
kidding.
BG:
Of course, this project doesn´t start filming until
the end of the year. You have four other films in the
can, all completed since we spoke with you a year ago.
That´s mindboggling when you consider that two films
a year is a lot by most people´s standards.
NW:
[laughs] I know. Well, my part in The Kelly Gang was
small and really only involved six day´s work. But
all the films were done back-to-back, so it´s been
pretty chaotic. A friend said to me the other day that
I need to go into therapy to learn how to say "No."
She said I don´t know how to turn anything down.
BG:
Why is that? Are you afraid the parts are going to go
away?
NW:Probably.
I´ve spent 12 years waiting for the right thing
and never getting it, and finally I´ve got the chance.
And I do fear that the opportunities are going to go away
- but it´s also that the projects themselves are
so great. I have said no, by the way, a lot, especially
in the last six months, and then I hear the names of the
actresses the roles have gone to and I think, Oh my God!
Who the hell do I think I am?, and begin to have second
thoughts about my decisions. But it´s only been
in the last six months that the offers have gone out of
control.
BG:
One of the early pieces I read about Mulholland Drive
described you and your co-star Laura Elena Harring as
being too old for your parts, which is crazy, not least
of which because you´re only in your early thirties.
But I´m curious, is age a factor here as well?
NW:
There is a little bit of that concern, that time´s
running out and roles will dry up, as they do for women
in their late-thirties. But I´ve started to notice
in the last few months that the roles available to women
in their thirties suddenly seem a lot better than the
ones for women in their mid- to late-twenties. Which makes
sense. Women have got more to say at this point in their
lives. They´ve had a decade of getting to know themselves,
of making mistakes, reflecting back to failed relationships,
having children, all those things, and as a result, the
characters, the roles, become much more interesting, more
dynamic.
BG:
That´s great news. You´re the first person
I´ve heard say that. Talk to me about.what drives
you creative choices. I imagine, coming off of a success
like Mulholland Drive, you could have picked any project
you wanted, yet from what I can gather the roles you´ve
chosen are notable more for their emotional bravery than
for their blockbuster potential.
NW:
Well, The Ring is sort of a commercial movie, but the
role [in which Watts play a newspaper reporter investigating
a mysterious videotape tied to the deaths of four teenagers]
is really quite a brilliant one. Plus it was such a departure
from Mulholland Drive. It has some serious emotional material
- all that good stuff actors love to play - but she´s
really a normal girl, whereas Betty and Diane in Mulholland
Drive are both so extreme they´re sort of psychotic.
I just want to make sure that I keep people guessing,
that the mystery is always there. I don´t want to
be defined. I feel like I can do lots of different things
and whatever speaks to me at a given time, that´s
what I´m going to gravitate towards.
BG:
Anything that you´d like to try that you haven´t
had the chance to?
NW:
I`m burning for a comedy, but I´m not a lover
of quintessential romantic comedies. You know, You´ve
Got Mail [1998] is not me.
BG:
Though interestingly, I read a piece in which you were
compared to Meg Ryan.
NW:
Oh, my God!
BG:
Others compared you to Grace Kelly, Tippi Hedren, Sharon
Stone -
NW:
- I´ve heard those. Who else? Any sort of psycho
ones in there?
BG:
That´s all I´ve come across. Wo would you
like to be compared to?
NW:
Meryl Streep, Jodie Foster, Julianne Moore - those are
my favourites.
BG:
One aspect of your life that´s gotten a lot
of press over the past year is your friendship with Nicola
Kidman, which dates from when you met as teenagers on
the set of a bathing suit commercial in Australia. How
important was that relationship during those years when
you were struggling for work?
NW:
Nicole has been incredibly supportive and a constant source
of inspiration. She and I are very different people in
terms of our backgrounds and how we were raised, but having
said that, I could identify with her becaus we both come
from Sydney. Her success has given me hope for myself.
And you know, she encouraged me all the time. She used
to say, "Naomi, just one role, one great role, that´s
all it takes." I think I can confidently say that
Nicole has always believed in me and has always been incredibly
encouraging, and that goes back to the days when we rehearsed
together for Flirting [1991]. We had a friend in common
and I remember that friend saying, "Nicole said you
were amazing, and she doesn´t say that lightly."
I can recall thinking, Oh wow! An actress I admire thinks
I´m worth something.
BG:
Any thoughts on why so many of our best actors right
now are from Australia?
NW:
I don´t know! People keep asking me that, and I
wish I could come up with an intelligent answer. One possibility,
I guess, is the fact that in Australia, like in England,
we have a government-run drama program, so you´ve
got people who are seriously well-trained and know their
craft and have a great work ethic. That extrapolates into
a great attitude and talent.
BG:
I put the question to an Australian colleague here, and
she suggested that it had more to do with the general
fearlessness of the Australian personality.
NW:
That´s so true. But then there´s also a selfdeprecating
thing as well. It´s not too gung ho. It´s
not too in-your-face. Australians are very unself-conscious
for the most part.
BG:
How are you feeling about the whole publicity aspect
of making movies? With the number of big films you have
coming up, it seems likely that your anonymity is on the
verge of disappearing.
NW:
I haven´t got in touch with that because I do
not get recognized in the States. Hopefully I can retain
my anonymity for as long as possible. It really does scare
me, the idea that I am going to have to make all my appointments
in my house and go out there and interact with the world.
That is something I really don´t want, and it´s
going to hurt my work. Acting is about studying life and
human nature. I need that contact with the girl who´s
got the black eye at the checkout counter, whose soul
is just crushed inside and she´s smiling at me while
she´s ringing up my talcum powder or whatever. You
need that exchange, and you´re not going to get
it just from your imagination. If you´re not able
to go into the shopping malls and these weird, wonderful
places where you run into all walks of life, I think you´re
subjugating your work. I don´t know anyone who´s
chosen to be an actor because they´ve desired that
kind of fame.
BG:
Though I think a lot of people imagine actors choose
their profession because they want exactly that.
NW:
You know, it´s embarrassing to admit, but when
I was growing up, one of the films that had the biggest
influence on me was the movie Fame [1980]. And it´s
not because I dreamt of being famous. It was literally
because I wanted to be in that class dancing on table
tops with leg warmers on. [laughs] I wanted to be doing
splits in the air with a black man catching me as I came
down. I think a lot of people who choose acting as a profession
feel that way.
BG:
Was there one moment when you knew acting was "it"
for you?
NW:
I remember when I was four or five watching my mother
onstage playing Eliza Doolittle in My Fair Lady. She was
so beautiful up there - everyone was wearing these incredible
costumes - and I was in the front row with my nana, waving
at her the whole time, going, "Mom, Mom!" But
she couldn´t wave back because she was in character.
I remember wanting her to wave at me, to acknowledge me,
to bring me into that world, and I couldn´t understand
why she wouldn´t. Finally, about two-thirds of the
way through the play, she gave me a little signal, a little
flip of the hand, a bit of eye contact, and at last, I
felt like I was part of that world. It meant so much to
me. I didn´t need to keep waving. I was there. I
was in it. I was part of the play and part of the magic.
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